Excellence, in your skills, knowledge and skills. Authenticity, with respect to your values, opinions, identity and also desires, emotions, fragility. The altruistic purpose, the ultimate purpose of what you do, which is beyond yourself and your loved ones. Which of these three evolutionary thrusts of the leader do you want to respond more to in the future than you already do today?

“I can't choose because, in some way, one feeds the other towards perfect balance. If I were forced to, I would choose the one I miss the most, the altruistic purpose ».

There is a lot of talk about the authenticity of the leader and it is hard to get out of your comfort zone. How far does the former go into you as a leader?

«In my world the term leader does not exist, instead there are points of reference. It is the authenticity that sets them apart. Being authentic is the essence of what I do. It absolutely takes some, without it it is impossible to lead certain adventures. It allows me not to act on impulse, it allows me to refine my intuition, it allows me to stop and not move for a moment. Thus the solutions emerge ».

How has the pandemic changed your leadership style?

I tried to shut up, I entered in silence. Too many people too many words. Very calm, all of us in my circle, in danger we remained silent. So you listen better, you hear better ».

The pandemic was a reminder of vulnerability and uncertainty for everyone - how was it for you, as an individual and as a leader?

“It surprised me a lot, even though it was predictable as a situation. I was struck by the many paradoxes: we buy military aircraft, we build anti-atomic shelters,… ».

I hand you this mirror. There is you and your reflection. If I looked at you as you are doing, with your eyes, what would I see different that I don't see from out here?

"The things I can cleverly hide!" How afraid I am in this period, which sometimes makes me act aggressively ».

Imagine that this mirror reflects your soul. How is it and how would you like it to be different?

“It's a little red now and I'd like it to be blue. Rossa is fiery, passionate, on. Instead blue is calm, meditative, transparent, light ».

Looking in the mirror, what don't you want to see about yourself?

“I don't want to see that sometimes I resemble things I hate or have tried to escape from and that I try to change in and of myself. For example, there is a difficulty in forgiving ».

Intimate and relevant to me, you still don't know that ...

"…I suffer from vertigo".

Intimate, relevant to me and beautiful, you still don't know that ...

«… Even if I play it a lot in my shows, I'm afraid of dying from lack of air, drowning».

What about you makes you smile?

"Often thinking like a child gives me smiles."

What about you, on the other hand, makes you sad?

"I am sad when I think that I can get gloomy about the diminished ones."

You turn the wheel of adversity and stop on shame, the biggest in your life yet. In due course, in the situation you have in mind now, how would you benefit from it?

“I didn't get any benefit. I couldn't do anything about it, I didn't go back. In life you need to know that mistakes are made and you need to learn to live with them peacefully. I don't need to forgive me, accuse me or transform them ».

In every negativity, big or small, there is positive, big and small. What did the virus give you that was beautiful, big and small?

“I don't know, I don't know yet. I will realize this later, I am convinced ».

Go back to that moment when you asked for important help: how did you overcome fears and what impact did it have on your life?

«I was not afraid, I am very good at asking for help. I felt a sense of gratitude and it represented a legacy ».

You just told me that your temper tantrums are your influential weakness. Let's imagine they are mine. We are friends and I come to you for advice: Daniele how can I turn him into a strength?

“Look at it in a different way. It's nature, maybe you need to let off steam. See if it really is a weak point, maybe you find that you need something. Don't focus on the negative feeling it gives you, but on the usefulness it has for you ».

Imagine you are three months old. What do you change in your daily life?

«I don't know how to answer you. Less futility I think. You have to be in the situation ».

What dream do you pull out of the drawer?

«I have so many drawers ...».

Who do you give the last caress to?

"To a significant object, so that it remains as a trace."

Go back to that moment when you cried with hiccups and visualize it: those tears, could they speak, what would they tell you?

«Precipice, anger, helplessness, pain, burning. Help! Move from there! ».

I make myself small, so small that I enter you and walk up to your heart. I open the door, turn on the light: what do I see?

"A giant temple, huge aisles, saffron-colored suspended sheets, a source of water, people sitting looking at the water and people singing".

What is a world without grudges, with greater awareness of one's responsibility, empathy and acceptance of oneself and others?

«It is a transparent, light, harmonious world. It takes another God who rewrites everything ».

And a world that works for emotional rather than factual or numerical goals?

“It's not necessarily a good thing, it depends on the area. I love the balance and the proportions. Harmony is a matter of elegantly distributed weights and measures. Emotion also has its excesses. To float the ship I use the laws of physics, to invent the wind in time of calm I use the emotion of singing ».

I give you a prepaid magic wand for a specific desire: what new quality do you give to the Ticino leadership in all areas, not just the political one, that you don't see today?

"To the Ticino leadership I give the pride of the success of the neighbor, of the other".

What question do you want me to ask you on the home straight?

«The three fundamental questions of life, which are: where do I come from, where do we go and what do we eat tonight? But I wouldn't know how to answer the last one… ».

What are your feelings from this chat?

"Beautiful! Nice because they are questions without precise answers. You provoke like echoes that lead to clarification and crystallization and, therefore, you have a better glimpse of what it is like ».

What value did it have for you?

"Discovery. I have done many interviews but never like this! ».

What colour is it?

"Green. Very green. Paisible as the French say. Serena ».

Please take back the mirror. In conclusion, what are you whispering in the ear of your reflection?

"Do not be afraid".

And in who's reading you right now?

"Do not be afraid".